New field Pros and Cons

Ok all we had another great day out. Weather wasn't too bad and dare I say it...no rain! Now lets get some constructive input rolling. Keep in mind that we can not build on the land. I will go first and please be honest in your input from a team/player perspective. Not your personal physical abilities or lack there of.

Pros:

Larger area to work in
Nice natural cover
Limited lanes
Well shaded

Cons:

The hill tires you out (one fix is to put water jugs up there for hydration)
Ability to hear for start and finish (air horns)
Parking (the people that live on the side street didn't look happy)

Summary:

I found the only problems with the field to be limited to my physical fitness. That and I only played from the top down so I have no idea on the upward fight issues or lack there of. Parking is a concern and I would see if we can take turns backing down the driveway-unload then go park. Then at the end do it in reverse. That would save all of us. Also if we can take one vehicle in loaded to the Base Camp area that would help, maybe even a 4-wheeler with a trailer (would be nice for the big games too).

All in all on a scale of 1-10 I give it a 7 (8 if we can figure out a solution for the parking).

I actually kind of liked fighting up the hill. The teams on the top of the hill had the advantage of higher ground, but that advantage was cut by the many differnt paths and flanking options. It was also cut by the vast brush and limited places to actually bunker down
:edit: I still prefer cqb

Well, to be honest, I didn't care for the field. I enjoy established cover and definition, and the field offered little in these avenues.

I don't mind wandering into the woods from time to time to play outlaw, but as far as a field where I would want to drive the additional time and hike the additional miles, I would want more than this field will be able to offer. This is not to say it isnt a nice piece of property, but I dont think its quite what I would want in a continuous paintball field. The bunkers that the farm has to offer and some light maintaining I think would be my preferred choice. Or exploring possibly going to somewhere like Splatter Hill if a sponsorship deal could be worked out to get a decent deal on paint and entry.

Just my $0.02

I say lets make room for options , in different events there are numerous challenges , challenges which requires alternate approaches , the field does not affect the operator , the operator control and adapt to the challenges , that is what separate the true from anyone else.
hooah !!!!!!

Can we groom the area at all? Plus marking a boundary of sorts will be needed. If we were to cut in a nice trail on the edges for deadman walks that would help drastically. I got hung up a few times coming out and had to backtrack....I'll play in in a parking lot if I have too!

REDLEG wrote:I say lets make room for options , in different events there are numerous challenges , challenges which requires alternate approaches , the field does not affect the operator , the operator control and adapt to the challenges , that is what separate the true from anyone else.
hooah !!!!!!

HOOAH

Hello every one a part of SH5 and not. I am glad to hear all the feedback. I will talk to the owners and see what you we can do as far as parking and unloading. I am sure the size of the location can seem to be a little confusing at first. It won’t take long and you all will know it like that back of your hand. I think a solid walk through would of helped a little bit more and we can mark boundaries. I think that would be a great help for any one new on the field. The hill was not a factor for me at all. The farm has a bit of a hill too. Not really affected by it. I know the field sort of brings a new level of play that we only get to really experience once every couple of months. I don’t believe I would refer to it as outlaw. Outlaw is where I bunch of guys get together and just play. No structure or tactics. I don’t know about you guys but the men on SH5 I ran with Sunday played with both. So I would say tactical paintball. But that’s just me, Never really been into Tool paintball. I think there is a lot that can be worked on but as a first time out I believe things went well. Thanks guys for taking the time to check it out and giving it a chance. Also thanks for all the feedback.

Blood wrote: I don’t know about you guys but the men on SH5 I ran with Sunday played with both. So I would say tactical paintball.

HOOAH

AS FAR AS THE NEW FIELD GOES, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE MINDED THE HIKE SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SICK. I DO THINK THAT IT NEEDS SOME BOUNDARIES AND LANDSCAPING...HAVING SAID THAT I HATE FOR US TO PUT TOO MUCH WORK INTO IT WHEN WE CAN'T GET EVERYONE TO OUR FIELD TO DO WORK AND THAT'S OUR HOME FIELD...THATS NOT A JAB AT ANYONE IN PARTICULAR I'M JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS. I DON'T GET OUT THERE TO WORK ON THE FIELD EITHER LIKE I SHOULD. ALSO IT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK FOREVER TO GET THERE. I WONDER IF THERE IS A SHORTER WAY FROM WEST YORK? IF WE DO PLAN ON USING THIS FIELD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BROKEN DOWN INTO SEVERAL SMALLER FIELDS FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OBJECTIVES. I ALSO THINK WE NEED A BETTER PLACE TO SET UP ALL OF OUR GEAR. IT WAS KIND OF A PAIN THE ASS TO LUG EVERYTHING IN. OVER ALL IT HAS POTENTIAL. THAT IS THE MOST HONEST FEED BACK I CAN GIVE.

I BELIEVE THE BASIS FOR ANY FIELD SH5 DIRECTLY INVOLVES ITSELF IN HAS TO BE APPROACHED WITH THE OVERALL MINDSET THAT COMES FROM AN UNDERSTANDING OF EACH OF OUR ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS:

1.) IF SLAUGHTERHOUSE-5 BEGINS AN ENGAGEMENT IN ANY LOCATION, AT ANY TIME, IN ANY CONDITION, WILL YOU YEARN TO ENGAGE THE BATTLE WITH YOUR BROTHERS?

2.) IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD DARE ATTEMPT TO KEEP YOU FROM GETTING TO YOUR BROTHERS IN TIME OF NEED?

3.) WILL YOU WILLFULLY ENGAGE ANY SITUATION WITH YOUR BROTHERS IN SERVICE TO THE GREATER OUTCOME THAT ONLY THE VIRTUE OF TEAM CAN ACCOMPLISH?

4.) WHAT DO YOU REALLY NEED OTHER THAN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE 11 OTHER MEN AT YOUR SIDE, GUN UP, TARGET DOWN, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?

FOR ME, WHEN I ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, THE VARIABLES AND THINGS WE SEE AS CONVENIENCES IN ESTABLISHED FIELDS BECOME HINDERANCES.

WE MUST LEARN TO ADAPT AS A TEAM.
WE MUST LEARN TO LET GO OF WHAT WE THINK WE NEED AS A TEAM AND BEGIN TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED AS A TEAM.

AND WE MUST BEGIN TO TAKE DEEP AND STEADY BREATHS AS A TEAM AT PERFECT PEACE KNOWING THAT ONLY WITH THE MEN NEXT TO YOU WILL YOU EVEN BE CAPABLE OF ACCOMPLISHING THAT NECESSARY HEADSHOT THAT GIVES YOUR TEAM THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE HILL.

EVERY MAN IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE TEAM.
THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS 12 MEN PULLED THE TRIGGER ON A SINGLE ROUND.

WE ARE SLAUGHTERHOUSE-5

HOOAH

Casanova wrote:I actually kind of liked fighting up the hill. The teams on the top of the hill had the advantage of higher ground, but that advantage was cut by the many differnt paths and flanking options. It was also cut by the vast brush and limited places to actually bunker down
:edit: I still prefer cqb

HOOAH

Hooah

Blood wrote: I don’t believe I would refer to it as outlaw. Outlaw is where I bunch of guys get together and just play. No structure or tactics.

I beg to differ on this statement. Outlaw/Renegade paintball is what we do . It refers to playing in a location that is not a sanctioned field. The Farm is a prime example of an Outlaw field. This is the roots of paintball and where it all begins for most. Outlaw Paintball is not a dirty word.

GHOST wrote:
FOR ME, WHEN I ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, THE VARIABLES AND THINGS WE SEE AS CONVENIENCES IN ESTABLISHED FIELDS BECOME HINDERANCES.

We also need to keep in mind that this is paintball and any battle other than against our own are going to be in a semi groomed location. Training in such fashion would tune our skills to a truer virtue of our game. Do I enjoy the tactical operations, sure. Do we need to do them to build teamwork,hell yes. Do we need to also train to the conditions that we will mostly likely face...you all know the answer.

the mind is a terrible thing to waste.